Kaiser Zoso
8:58 Fri Sep 15
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You’re getting called out but you’re too fat and thick to realise the piss is being ripped. And calling someone Stevie amuses absolutely no one.
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Hammer and Pickle
8:57 Fri Sep 15
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Oooohhhh - introducing the West Ham loyalty aspect there is a low, subtle blow.
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Capitol Man
8:50 Fri Sep 15
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Stevie - by "quite Bizarre" you mean you can't explain why you brought up Biden, haven't got a single credible example to back up what you said, and you're confused between the cause that started the BLM protests and the organization that emerged from it?
Any disagreement on those things?
Come on, now's the chance to show you're not FOS at all. Goose will help.
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stewie griffin
8:44 Fri Sep 15
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its getting quite bizarre now.
I mean, I realise that extremists will rarely own their actions - but its a bit weird that he's now using all the same arguments against the BLM organisation taht everyone on here used at the time, and claiming them as his own, despite previously decrying everyone who denounced BLM as 'hating black people'.
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Capitol Man
8:39 Fri Sep 15
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Even goose thinks you're floundering and need help Stevie.
I don't imagine you came up with that BLM nonsense yourself did you, you probably read it somewhere.
That's about supposedly giving you an argument as to why you have a visceral or negative reaction to BLM. That's it's ok to think BLM is bad. It's not you Stevie, it's them! They're all corrupt and not really about helping black people.
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goose
8:32 Fri Sep 15
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Another day, another ‘disastrous’ showing of self awareness from Karen.
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Capitol Man
8:26 Fri Sep 15
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Yes Stevie - you were the one who bought Biden up. Is your memory failing you son?
What you've done here in a ham-fisted, amateurish way, is conflate the cause of BLM with the organization that emerged from it. You pick at the organization to dismiss the wider cause.
Rather like suggesting that if you support West Ham you are fully supportive of the business operations and decisions of Sullivan and Brady. separating the cause and root issues behind the BLM movement is as easy as supporting West Ham and not supporting its owners or what they do.
It's also weak way of trying to avoiding the actual issues involved.
So let's pose some more questions to the ones you don't seem to want to answer. Are you naive and ill-informed enough to not be able to separate the underlying causes of the BLM protests from the operations of the organization that emerged from it, or are you arrogant and naive enough to think this fools anyone else?
Now lets put it in summary to keep it simple for you.
1) You brought up Biden here
2) You still haven't come up with any worthwhile examples of the things you said.
3) You are conflating the operations of the group that formed after the start of the BLM protests with the issues behind the protests themselves.
Other than that you're doing great son.
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stewie griffin
8:11 Fri Sep 15
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As I said, mentally impaired. STILL going on about Biden.
Excellent reversing on BLM. You supported it, others on here didn't because of their manifesto and all it entailed. They were right. You were wrong. And.. again.. by your own definition of your failure to acknowledge you were wrong, you are a spineless slug.
As for the history, it's genuinely laughable. You are far closer to being a fascist than almost anyone on here, as evidenced by your anger at anyone and everyone who.fails to comply with your orwellian nightmare view of the world
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Capitol Man
7:52 Fri Sep 15
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stewie griffin 6:59 Fri Sep 15
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Sorry Stevie - did you ever get round to explaining what your thoughts on Biden had to do with this post about Brexit and the EU?
And then you also didn't actually come up with any examples or how Biden was "incompetent" and "corrupt". Just some rambling stuff about issues in US cities and poor infrastructure, that was a bit stupid to associate with a man in power for 2.5 years. Then there was the corruption part where you had zero evidence of any, but you thought there must be something because you've read stuff about his son.
So it was a shit attempt to troll wasn't it.
And thickii - there's a long history of looney posts with him, and I admittedly think it's somewhat pathetic to try and blame the fact that Brexit hasn't been the miracles and rainbows that were promised on the people who said it was a bad idea in the first place.
BLM - I didn't "support" it in an active way, but the concept that if law enforcement kill someone, then that should be properly investigated.
Again, it's a shit attempt by you to try and tie me to your own biased perceptions of what it was and wasn't.
So here's a little summary and some questions for you to clear up my misunderstandings.
1) what has Biden got to do with Brexit?
2) Did you find any examples of "incompetence" beyond homelessness and the state of us cities and infrastructure.
3) Did you have any examples of "Joe" Biden's corruption that are more than your feelings that he must have been involved in his son's businesses.
4) How exactly do you think I'm actually supporting the organization of BLM as opposed to the concept that people should be treated equally before the law? You understand the difference between supporting the organization and thinking that the broader cause may have some genuine issues behind it.
In terms of extremism - there's a lot of historical context there that can help you understand these movements. There's a lot of parallels between today's populist movements and the rise of fascism in Europe, just as there are between Putin's Russia and Hitler's Germany.
I'd also recommend you learn a little more about history, learn how to back up a point with some substance, rather than your feelings, and to stop constructing such flimsy straw-man arguments.
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stewie griffin
7:15 Fri Sep 15
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And by the way, your continued failure to grasp the fact that you were being called out for your lack of self awareness, and that I couldn't give a shit about brexit, even 72 hours later, suggests a major mental handicap of some description. You should look into that , it could become debilitating.
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stewie griffin
6:59 Fri Sep 15
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Capitol Man
An inaccurate representation of our interaction.
As a reminder, you wrote "What you see here from the likes of thicki here is the kind of spineless slugs who always looks for someone else to blame when stuff he supports go wrong"
you later wrote, "Not sure what my "support" of BLM has to do with it, but I support it only in I think that people should be treated equally by both law enforcement and the law itself. Not sure that's especially radical given that's the concept behind law in pretty much all countries, it's the application that falls down. I was against the nonsense about Antifa and the many many people on here who mischaracterized the entire debate, mostly because they don't like black people"
So, you supported an organisation and movement that ripped off millions, proved to be a giant Ponzi scheme, did precisely zero to help any Black people at all - other than the leaders who purchased themselves a variety of mansions - and didn't give a single cent of the millions they earned to George Floyd's family; but you blame the stuff you supported going wrong on WHO posters who, apparently, without any basis, 'don't like black people'.
So, by your own definition, you are a spineless slug.
I'd also be cautious around branding others as extremists; in the grand scheme of the history of the world beyond the last 5 years when the meaning of words has been redefined by a group who have zero authority to redefine words, your views are far more extreme than the views of most on here.
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BRANDED
6:59 Fri Sep 15
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In most real world debates there are generally rules around how the debate will progress. There is good reason for that.
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Willtell
6:58 Fri Sep 15
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2At what stage is it ok to point out the utter lunacy of what someone is posting. Are we supposed to pretend that every bit of extremism and crap is to be treated seriously?2
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Oh OK then Capitol Man. Several posters have been trying hard to tell you that you post up every bit of left wing extremism and crap.
As such you are considered, a bit of a lunatic from the unacceptable side of left wing politics..
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Mike Oxsaw
6:52 Fri Sep 15
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BRANDED 6:47 Fri Sep 15
Walking away is losing; it's what cry-baby little school girls do.
REAL men stand their ground and fight...and fixate about other posters' genitals, apparently.
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BRANDED
6:47 Fri Sep 15
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Sorry. Are you saying you do or dont meet people with different views from you in the real World?
As far as language is concerned, I’m happy with it. I’m not a banning type person. I admit it may not correspond to ypur or my norms but thats fine by me. I can always just walk away.
As far as Covid is concerned the narrative has moved enormously since the start. But, obviously it would depend on which narrative you observe.
As far as Ukraine is concerned. History will be on the side of the victor but I cant see a victor here.
I genuinely suggest if it troubles you so much you walk away or just avoid politics.
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Capitol Man
6:34 Fri Sep 15
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BRANDED 5:24 Fri Sep 15
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Pretty much the opposite of what I said.
Opposing views are common. Two years posting literally everything you find online that is anti-vaccine, for example, is something else.
Having questions about the Ukraine war is one thing, posting every bit of Russian propaganda another.
Openly racist posts on a continual basis or posters that only seem to pipe up on those threads that talk about race. We supposed to pretend that they aren't racist - that Golden Oldie's views are ok? There's a lot on here with very similar views who think they are cleaver by no expressing them in his overt way.
Trolling attempts - take little Stevie on thread. Didn't like what I posted on Europe, thought he'd randomly troll me on Biden.
Small Cock's weak trolling attempts on virtually everything.
Look at the substance of what is being said and the history of who is posting it. At what stage is it ok to point out the utter lunacy of what someone is posting. Are we supposed to pretend that every bit of extremism and crap is to be treated seriously?
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Mike Oxsaw
5:50 Fri Sep 15
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Capitol Man 5:16 Fri Sep 15
You are aware that you have complete control over whether or not you interact with such people?
That's total management power right there.
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BRANDED
5:24 Fri Sep 15
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You never speak with people with a different view if the World to you in the real World?
That, my friend, is your problem right there. Practice in the real World might help you.
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Capitol Man
5:16 Fri Sep 15
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MPI - Do I talk to people in real life like I talk to them on here - no.
Do the people I regularly interact with on a daily basis barrage me with a bunch of extremist ideas, conspiracy theories, disinformation and shit trolling attempts - also no.
Would I say something if someone in my company started talking some of the crap you see on here - very possibly, would depend on the situation.
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Moncurs Putting Iron
5:14 Fri Sep 15
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BRANDED 4:31 Fri Sep 15
*Breaks off from struggling to get into oversized sequin cocktail dress and belt out' I am what I am' on the Karoake machine*
What you saying Branded?
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goose
5:05 Fri Sep 15
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hilarious how a poster who refers to the Chinese as 'tiddly winks' and threatened to kill another poster is bitching about moderation.
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